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Mind Transfer To A Computer Could Be Possible By 2050. Immortality May Be Within Reach

by onApril 5, 2016
 

Immortality. Something that the human race has dreamt of since we understood the concept of death. The ability to live beyond our extremely mortal bodies…From the famous myths of a fountain of youth to the endless potions of legend that would stop you from aging and keep you alive forever, nothing truly seems to be more than a dream. But could we have been thinking about this incorrectly for a while now?

The Fountain of Youth

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Rather than dreaming and attempting to keep our physical bodies alive forever, maybe we need to look somewhere else. What’s something that you use every day. What’s something that has incredible power similar to that of our minds. What are you looking at right now? A thought provoking article surely, but what’s displaying it? A computer; running a program. What else is our mind but a type of computer running a program?

I think the brain is like a program in the mind, which is like a computer, so it’s theoretically possible to copy the brain onto a computer and so provide a form of life after death – Stephen Hawking

Brain Plugged In To Computer. Becoming Immortal

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Many scientists and thinkers are suggesting that the answer to eternal life has literally been right in front of us for a while now. The head of British Telecom’s futurology unit stated that rapid advances in computing power would make cyber-immortality a reality within 50 years. Using the incredible jump in the computing power of the Playstation game systems as an example.

The new PlayStation is one percent as powerful as the human brain,” Pearson told the Observer. “It is into supercomputer status compared to 10 years ago. PlayStation 5 will probably be as powerful as the human brain.  – Ian Pearson

Granted that was stated back in 2005, it’s still a valid point. The jump in computing power of all machines is dramatic year after year. In fact Moore’s law states that “over the history of computing hardware, the number of transistors in a dense integrated circuit has doubled approximately every two years”.

The Key To Immortality Is Through Computers

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More recently (in 2013) one of todays great minds and Google’s director of engineering, Ray Kurzweil, suggested that the ability to transfer the entire human mind to a computer will be achievable within four decades.

Based on conservative estimates of the amount of computation you need to functionally simulate a human brain, we’ll be able to expand the scope of our intelligence a billion-fold. – Ray Kurzweil

We’ve even begun to replicate the functions of a brain. In a study done by The Blue Brain project, Henry Markram and a team successfully simulated the neocortical column of a rat. A complex layer of brain tissue common to all mammals. Although we are still a ways off from replicating the human brain, it is extremely foreseeable that it will exist within many of our lifetimes. Whether it will be affordable to the masses that soon is another question. It could take time for it to become a common and affordable means to an end.

Computer Image of Human Brain

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The ability to replicate our brains on a computer is rooted in science. Our mind is essentially a type of computer sending electronic signals similar to a program. If we can decipher this code and construct a powerful enough computer (would need to make 100 trillion connections to match our brain) that can read the code and simulate consciousness, we will be able to put our mind on it.

Currently, the closest we have come to building a functional model of the human brain, a crucial step on the pathway toward downloading consciousness, is a series of cortical simulations. These simulations, which have utilized the very best in computer technology, such as IBM’s Blue Gene supercomputer, have successfully emulated the processing power of a brain possessing 1.6 billion neurons—about the equivalent of a cat brain in terms of neuron numbers alone. But even these extremely complex models, run on some of the best computer hardware in existence, lag behind the actual processing power of their biological counterparts. – Stanford.edu

There are continuous advances in computational genetics supporting the claim that mind transfer is the key to human immortality. Massive supercomputers are beginning to simulate the mind. Leaders in A.I. (artificial intelligence) are developing robots/machines that can think, reason and learn by mimicking the brain. Computer interfaces that can read the signals in your mind are quickly advancing as well. Here’s a definition of a way mind uploading could work from scientist Randal Koene:

‘The functions of mind that we experience are originally implemented through neurobiological mechanisms, the neural circuitry of our brains. If the same functions are implemented in a different operating substrate, populated with parameters and operating such that they produce the same results as they would in the brain, then that mind has become substrate-independent. It is a substrate-independent mind (SIM) by being able to function in different operating substrates. The popular term ‘mind uploading’ can refer to the process of transfer, moving a specific substrate-independent mind from one operating substrate (e.g., the biological brain) to another. 

 

While it may seem evidently possible, some still highly doubt the possibility. Saying that recreating the consciousness of a human is far fetched. For example, neuroscientist Miguel Nicolelis in an interview with MIT Technology Review, stated that the theory of technological singularity is just a bunch of hot air. Saying that humans will never be able to download/program their thoughts and/or memories into computers.

 

There are a lot of people selling the idea that you can mimic the brain with a computer. You could have all the computer chips ever in the world and you won’t create a consciousness. – Miguel Nicolelis

I think the biggest point that goes against this as a possibility is post-upload skepticism. We will never really know if it works, even if it has appeared to. If you successfully transfer someones brain and they come to life in a computer stating that they remember everything and are themselves, how do you know it’s actually that person’s true self and not just a successful copy. This uncertainty that instead of moving our minds, we simply copied ourselves would never really go away. How do you know that you’re actually not just killing yourself and uploading a copied mind onto a computer…It’s a creepy thought.

Will We Be Able To Upload Our Mind To Computers?

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It’s not possible, as we currently understand it, to measure if something has consciousness. Uploading will require a sort of leap of faith. And you won’t be able to rely on what uploaded beings say as they could just as likely be a perfectly copied human that functions completely like the original person, but isn’t actually them.

Think of it like a game of chess. If I tell you the moves, you can faithfully replicate the gameplay. But you know nothing whatsoever of the textures of the pieces, or indeed, whether they have any textures at all (perhaps I played online). Likewise, I think, the same can be said with the textures of consciousness. The possibility of substrate-independent minds needs to be distinguished from the possibility of substrate-independent qualia. – David Pearce To Gizmodo

Regardless of all the noise about the possibility and lack thereof of mind uploading, it is without a doubt our closest and best shot at allowing humans to exist beyond our current bodily limits. So why not investigate and test it as much as possible. When you’re on your death bead, why not give it a shot and transfer to a computer. Either you’ll come to life on a computer or you’ll die and a perfectly functioning copy of you will appear. Is that not life in and of itself? If it functions like you and reacts like you, is it not you? Just because you had a split second of unconsciousness during transfer doesn’t mean you’re not you…or does it?

 

 

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  • April 6, 2016 at 9:10 pm

    Aside “consciousness,” which is key, other things contribute to being human. For example, if you have a scar on your finger, you brain possibly always remembers the experience that led to the scar, people who treated you, how you couldn’t cope with the injury for a while, etc…all amount to having a real human brain. Then, when the brain’s data and stuff are successfully copied unto a machine, how will the machine, having no human body, see the scar and make sense of the real experience?
    You see folks, that’s something to think about. Things will never be the same. It’s just as good as dying, and a robot simply has a copy of your brain’s data, not the real you anymore. The real you is dead.
    By the way, I am a strong lover of AI, and a techie with a medical background.


  • Augusto
    April 7, 2016 at 2:40 am

    @Olumide

    I know what you mean about you being a copy of your brain’s data, it’s the same thing going in my mind after reading the comment. It’s more like another you rather than you moving somewhere else. But the other thing you said, about the scar, I don’t think is complicated. If the data being transferred to the artificial “thing”, computer or what’s so over is aware of whats going on, that copy of you would know what’s going on and know it doesn’t have a body like it used to. I think at most it would process that it doesn’t have a body anymore and would just remember about the scar it used to have when it was part of you.


    • April 8, 2016 at 12:24 am

      Nice try about the scar part But essentially, the human is dead and the other machine or computer is “just” an AI. You see, today, computer scientists try to program into a computer what it should do. Now that’s a level. Essentially, mapping the whole neural setup of the human species to create a synthetic one, by any means, is purely artificial and another level. It can never be human.
      If all humans transition into AI, human life is wholly dead. Even if AI will eventually incorporate an analog of the DNA in the future, for the sake of reproduction, human life is still gone, dead.
      Until science can explain the whole essence of the universe and our existence, no amount of trials on creating life forms we make will qualify as having life…since we don’t wanna clone existing life forms that we consider mortal, and that will be reinventing the wheel.
      Best bet, science can/should try making humans almost immortal, for example, by cracking anti-aging stuff so humans can live as long as they might want, and this may not be against religious principles since some folks in the Bible lived far beyond 500 years. You know, oppositions from religious communities are bound to happen.


  • Noah Seieroe
    April 7, 2016 at 10:33 am

    even if we are not the same person the simple thought of preserving human life after time into a platform is amazing. this being said if we transfer our “data” into the robot yeah we wont recognize scars, but that just says right there as robots we wont have to worry about diseases, and many things that plague the human body.


    • April 8, 2016 at 12:39 am

      Actually, I support the fact that we can/should backup the human brain’s data, especially that of most significant personalities who have made groundbreaking contributions to making the world a better place for all, e.g. certain scientists who have unfinished projects, and the AI’s created from such brain data can help in, for example, future scientific research.
      For diseases, once highly advanced enough technologies are available, clearing viruses or selective elimination of prions from the entire human body should be a piece of cake. But there’s always that political and financial corruption going on. For other relatively difficult diseases like those of autoimmune origins, they should also become piece of cake when technologies that can help in cracking the immune system’s full setup down to all forms of antibodies that there are, etc.


  • Kilindi Iyi
    April 9, 2016 at 11:25 pm

    Well with the speed of computers at the time this is close to happening time dilation inside of the software would be possible. You could theoretically simulate millions of years subjective time for every second of organic time. They just have to get the hardware small enough a femto computer could do it very easily quantum entanglement. Yes it may not be true immortality but living a million years a second for 400 or 500 years ought to be enough time to figure a few things out.


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